POLL: Change the config back???

[Rey]

VOTE! not being racist or anything but they dont listen... Im tired of hearing regs complain cause they cade break, mic spam, ect...

[omega2058]

VOTE! not being racist or anything but they dont listen... that korean admin is never on and doesnt help at all... Im tired of hearing regs complain cause they cade break, mic spam, ect...

rey buddy i completely agree with you on this one, im tired of complaining and whining and nobody listens. Since the majority of koreans dont listen i do beleive this is the best possible way unless another solution is found. Also, the koreans that do have mics sometimes use there mics and play music through it when the admins arent there at night to do anything about it. My last key point would be that i dislike being called an "yankee" by a korean. im not trying to be racist, but wit that one word when the admins werent around. It was racist than 6 feet under in that server.

thanks for your time, -Omega2058-

[Natalya]

Here's what will happen if we make the server a steam server again:


1: The Koreans won't be able to join.
2: Nor will most of the other people who play on ZM.
3: ZM will revert back to what it was before November with only a few players.
4: It will lose its spot as the 13th most popular CS:S ZM server.
5: I will NOT do anything to try to get players to join the server.
6: Since the server lacks any other admins who would try to populate it, it will die.
7: You will baww that ZM is dead and ask to have it changed into something else.
8: ??????
9: Failure.


Let me explain to you my story...

January 2008
- Tara leaves. Zombie Mod is left with Random as its only Jr. Owner. It slowly loses popularity and eventually dies in April.

April 2008
- ZM is completely dead.
- Propmenu is added to the server by Siosios.

June 2008
- I am given FTP access for N/U servers. I set about trying to revive ZM.

Summer 2008
- Between June and August ZM gets some decent popularity. I play almost every day, however when me or another admin is not around, the server goes to the shitter and no1 plays.

August 2008
- I go to Canada. When I come back a couple weeks later, ZM is totally dead.
- I go back to University for the fall.

September 2008
- Kami joins as an admin.

Fall 2008
- I work hard on populating ZM. I play for most of my free time to get the server going. During the week, if we had 8 people on at any point in time, it was a good day.
- My grades began to suffer from me spending my time in the server when I should have been studying. I was the only person who populated the server on a daily basis, though Kami tried to help with that too. But by November I got worn out from constantly trying to get people in there with no real other help.

November 2008
- I am tired of trying to populate a server that remains dead without me and am ready to give up on it.
- I no-steam the server as the last resort to populate the server.
- The server explodes with players literally over night.
- I spent a couple weeks working out the bugs with the anti-cheat and the ping kicker.


That is the time line of the server. If we set the server back to normal, I will NOT spend my time trying to populate it, and without a significant time commitment from ALL other admins on the server, it will surely die. I am not going to waste my life trying to get people to join a server that for some reason does not attract players. I've tried running mostly lila panic and atix helicocksucker. I've tried cutting down the file download size to 15 MB. I've tried the public skins contest. I've tried nearly every new map released for Zombie Mod between June and December. I've tried escape maps. I've tried inviting other clans to come play on the server. I've tried posting the server IP in my maps which I release publicly and other servers play. I've tried advertising the server on different websites. I've tried sitting in the server all day every day, leaving my computer on over night to idle in it. I've tried inviting admins from other N/U servers to play in there to get the server going. I've tried adding the !weapons menu. I've tried the !propmenu. I've tried adding various other scripts to make the server more enjoyable.

I'm tired of trying. I'm done. No one else has committed half as much time to the server as I have, and yet I could not succeed in populating it. I am done. If the rest of you want to volunteer to be on the server all day every day between yourselves, go ahead. But don't count me in. I'm done. If you really want me to put it back to the way it was, I will do it, but don't come crying to me when it goes to shit.[/SOAP]

[omega2058]

Here's what will happen if we make the server a steam server again:


1: The Koreans won't be able to join.
2: Nor will most of the other people who play on ZM.
3: ZM will revert back to what it was before November with only a few players.
4: It will lose its spot as the 13th most popular CS:S ZM server.
5: I will NOT do anything to try to get players to join the server.
6: Since the server lacks any other admins who would try to populate it, it will die.
7: You will baww that ZM is dead and ask to have it changed into something else.
8: ??????
9: Failure.


Let me explain to you my story...

January 2008
- Tara leaves. Zombie Mod is left with Random as its only Jr. Owner. It slowly loses popularity and eventually dies in April.

April 2008
- ZM is completely dead.
- Propmenu is added to the server by Siosios.

June 2008
- I am given FTP access for N/U servers. I set about trying to revive ZM.

Summer 2008
- Between June and August ZM gets some decent popularity. I play almost every day, however when me or another admin is not around, the server goes to the shitter and no1 plays.

August 2008
- I go to Canada. When I come back a couple weeks later, ZM is totally dead.
- I go back to University for the fall.

September 2008
- Kami joins as an admin.

Fall 2008
- I work hard on populating ZM. I play for most of my free time to get the server going. During the week, if we had 8 people on at any point in time, it was a good day.
- My grades began to suffer from me spending my time in the server when I should have been studying. I was the only person who populated the server on a daily basis, though Kami tried to help with that too. But by November I got worn out from constantly trying to get people in there with no real other help.

November 2008
- I am tired of trying to populate a server that remains dead without me and am ready to give up on it.
- I no-steam the server as the last resort to populate the server.
- The server explodes with players literally over night.
- I spent a couple weeks working out the bugs with the anti-cheat and the ping kicker.


That is the time line of the server. If we set the server back to normal, I will NOT spend my time trying to populate it, and without a significant time commitment from ALL other admins on the server, it will surely die. I am not going to waste my life trying to get people to join a server that for some reason does not attract players. I've tried running mostly lila panic and atix helicocksucker. I've tried cutting down the file download size to 15 MB. I've tried the public skins contest. I've tried nearly every new map released for Zombie Mod between June and December. I've tried escape maps. I've tried inviting other clans to come play on the server. I've tried posting the server IP in my maps which I release publicly and other servers play. I've tried advertising the server on different websites. I've tried sitting in the server all day every day, leaving my computer on over night to idle in it. I've tried inviting admins from other N/U servers to play in there to get the server going. I've tried adding the !weapons menu. I've tried the !propmenu. I've tried adding various other scripts to make the server more enjoyable.

I'm tired of trying. I'm done. No one else has committed half as much time to the server as I have, and yet I could not succeed in populating it. I am done. If the rest of you want to volunteer to be on the server all day every day between yourselves, go ahead. But don't count me in. I'm done. If you really want me to put it back to the way it was, I will do it, but don't come crying to me when it goes to shit.[/SOAP]

dang, then keep the config the same, all we can do now is stay away from where they go. I never knew an a**load of effort and work was used to make the n/u servers popular as ever. Its best to keep them like they are. Too much work was put into it by natalya... Also, i wont be able to play if the server is steam so yea.

[bmwong620]

I must be one of the few that are regulars on the server. Koreans make the server boom with people and won't bother you if they don't follow you. Muting them is a great way of stopping mic spammers. Going back to the old way would just destroy this server's rank and popularity. I must say i'm beginning to enjoy the koreans are free kills because they're not as smart as us and just follow you.
RawR-B | Cardmaster

[OttoBohn]

Being experienced server developer like NatalyaAF, I 2nd her opinion.

Otto
n00bsalad

Here's what will happen if we make the server a steam server again:


1: The Koreans won't be able to join.
2: Nor will most of the other people who play on ZM.
3: ZM will revert back to what it was before November with only a few players.
4: It will lose its spot as the 13th most popular CS:S ZM server.
5: I will NOT do anything to try to get players to join the server.
6: Since the server lacks any other admins who would try to populate it, it will die.
7: You will baww that ZM is dead and ask to have it changed into something else.
8: ??????
9: Failure.


Let me explain to you my story...

January 2008
- Tara leaves. Zombie Mod is left with Random as its only Jr. Owner. It slowly loses popularity and eventually dies in April.

April 2008
- ZM is completely dead.
- Propmenu is added to the server by Siosios.

June 2008
- I am given FTP access for N/U servers. I set about trying to revive ZM.

Summer 2008
- Between June and August ZM gets some decent popularity. I play almost every day, however when me or another admin is not around, the server goes to the shitter and no1 plays.

August 2008
- I go to Canada. When I come back a couple weeks later, ZM is totally dead.
- I go back to University for the fall.

September 2008
- Kami joins as an admin.

Fall 2008
- I work hard on populating ZM. I play for most of my free time to get the server going. During the week, if we had 8 people on at any point in time, it was a good day.
- My grades began to suffer from me spending my time in the server when I should have been studying. I was the only person who populated the server on a daily basis, though Kami tried to help with that too. But by November I got worn out from constantly trying to get people in there with no real other help.

November 2008
- I am tired of trying to populate a server that remains dead without me and am ready to give up on it.
- I no-steam the server as the last resort to populate the server.
- The server explodes with players literally over night.
- I spent a couple weeks working out the bugs with the anti-cheat and the ping kicker.


That is the time line of the server. If we set the server back to normal, I will NOT spend my time trying to populate it, and without a significant time commitment from ALL other admins on the server, it will surely die. I am not going to waste my life trying to get people to join a server that for some reason does not attract players. I've tried running mostly lila panic and atix helicocksucker. I've tried cutting down the file download size to 15 MB. I've tried the public skins contest. I've tried nearly every new map released for Zombie Mod between June and December. I've tried escape maps. I've tried inviting other clans to come play on the server. I've tried posting the server IP in my maps which I release publicly and other servers play. I've tried advertising the server on different websites. I've tried sitting in the server all day every day, leaving my computer on over night to idle in it. I've tried inviting admins from other N/U servers to play in there to get the server going. I've tried adding the !weapons menu. I've tried the !propmenu. I've tried adding various other scripts to make the server more enjoyable.

I'm tired of trying. I'm done. No one else has committed half as much time to the server as I have, and yet I could not succeed in populating it. I am done. If the rest of you want to volunteer to be on the server all day every day between yourselves, go ahead. But don't count me in. I'm done. If you really want me to put it back to the way it was, I will do it, but don't come crying to me when it goes to shit.[/SOAP]

[X-Storm]

It's some great work you have done. ^^

And if people are tired of the koreans cade breaking then don't go where they go...take a way they perhaps don't know.

And mic spammers...mute them and if koreans annoy you just don't answer back and they will stop, that's what i've been doing and they don't bother me anymore.

If everybody just did those things they wouldn't complain about them.

Or simply don't play when they play.

[Natalya]

Or simply don't play when they play.

QFE

They only can play at night, otherwise it kicks them. Also, the whole don't talk to them if they're talking... ALSO TRUE

And Rey you're an admin, why don't you just ban the ones that cause problems?

[Sajora]

well guys i dont like the korean guys either
but u have to be honest without the korean guys the server would be empty
there would be no1 to play with and the server would die again and im pretty sure thats not what u want to happen right?
@rey: i know what ur talking about im also tired of them braking the rules but ur an admin so just mute/kick/ban them and i also know its annoying if u have to do that most of the time ur in the server but its the only way
thats why ur admin here
and if any1 of the regs need an admin just add them on steam and/or xfire so u can talk to them if u need them
like i said i dont like the koreans without being racist now but if we change the config back the server will probably die again and i think thats not what u want to happen right?

Saj.

[X-Storm]

Yeah Sajora i've aleady added many of the admins, and i've never seen any koreans getting banned for breaking the rules many times...simply if they break the rules they should get the same punishment as other would have.

But without the foreigners we wouldn't have a server where you almost always can play on with many players, like yesterday i had trouble getting in because there were always 38 players on.